THE LAST DITCH

Iain Dale's Diary: Should Ex Pats & Overseas Territories Have Their Own MPs?

What a small-minded spirit sometimes lurks behind Iain Dale's engaging smile. My blood warmed mildly at his remark;

…if UK expats were genuinely worried about their democratic rights, they'd vote in far larger numbers than they do. Only 12,800 are even registered to vote….

Other nation's expatriates (or any citizens who happen to be abroad on polling day) can walk into their embassy anywhere in the world, identify themselves and vote. British expats however, must re-register in their last UK constituency (a place, in my case, with which I have no ongoing connection); apply separately for a postal vote, and then appoint a trusted proxy to whom the ballot is (possibly) sent in time. This must be done each time you want to vote. Organised and politically-passionate as I am, even I didn't always succeed. 

I have been abroad so long now that I have lost my vote completely. This, though still working for and remitting profits to a British business to be taxed. This, though still paying council tax on a UK property. This though still paying VAT, car tax, petrol duty etc on all purchases there. This, worst of all, though my family will still get to pay almost half of my lifetime's savings in Inheritance Tax to be squandered by the UK government when I die. 

As to whether I am, as Iain sneeringly suggests, not;

"….genuinely worried about my democratic rights…" 

…readers of this blog may well judge for themselves. If his remark was annoying, however, it was as nothing to those in the comments. As Kipling's mother said;

What do they know of England, who only England know? 

Not a lot, if Iain's readers are anything to go by. By the time I caught up with the post, there were over 40 mostly blood-heating comments. Probably no-one will scroll down far enough to read mine, but if you can be bothered, please do so and take part in the "debate".

Expatriates come in many varieties. Those in the EU get to vote locally, which is something. Those outside are ultimately disenfranchised completely. Many contribute massively to Britain's economy, especially those of us who produce those "invisible exports" that so often prop up the UK's GDP. To read Iain's commenters, you would never guess.

UPDATE: For ease of reference, here's my comment on Iain's post:

The debate in the comments is horrifying. Not all expats are tax
exiles. Those of us with homes and other assets in the UK pay a lot of
taxes and we are liable to inheritance tax. Even those who **are** tax
exiles are not using any of the benefits taxes pay for and are serving
those back home by keeping some competitive pressure on the government
to keep tax down. When did tax – essentially a legalised protection
racket – become a moral issue, for God's sake?

I work overseas
for a UK business and have been instrumental in remitting millions to
that business, all taxed and taxed again. That your commenters think an
unproductive parasite living in Britain is worthier of a vote than a
British citizen who is an agent of economic growth and a generator of
valuable "invisible exports" is appalling.

I think the fact my
hobby is writing a blog on British politics suggests I am rather more
connected than many Kipling was thinking of when he wrote "What do they
know of England, who only England know?"

As for your comment
that expats don't bother to vote, have you ever tried? It's a
nightmare. Postal votes are not allowed to leave the islands and you
need to appoint a proxy you can trust. Even a politically-interested
person like me failed to get it organised several times. Other nations'
expats just go to a polling station in their embassy. Not us. Then,
after you have been abroad too long, you lose your vote altogether
(even though the Revenue still plans to steal almost half your life's
work from your family when you die).

7 responses to “Should expatriate Britons continue to be second class citizens?”

  1. jameshigham Avatar

    As an ex-expat, my blood boils at this too. The difficulties placed in the way of expats whom I’ve noticed keep a keen eye peeled for developments at home are typical of the 19th century mentality up top.

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  2. Mr Eugenides Avatar

    Given that (I would imagine) a relatively healthy proportion of expatriates do not vote for Mr Brown’s mob, it is perhaps not surprising that they have not made greater efforts to clear the obstacles in their path.

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  3. Tom Paine Avatar

    In fairness to Mr Brown’s mob, it’s no worse than it was before they were elected.
    I am interested that everyone assumes all expatriates are Conservatives. If Labour is making that assumption is it because they regard enterprise and initiative as qualities inimical to Labour thinking?
    Sadly, I am afraid many expatriates (including some of my business partners) are as politically misguided as their fellow-citizens back home. I am convinced that Left/Right is largely based on a psychological predisposition to boss people about or leave them be.
    Political campaigning largely consists of (temporarily) overcoming that predisposition.

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  4. Mr Eugenides Avatar

    I wouldn’t necessarily say that “most” expats are Tories – and, indeed, one might say that people would be more inclined to vote for “progressive” parties who raise taxes when they themselves don’t have to bear the main brunt of those taxes (IHT notwithstanding).
    But if we assume that expatriates are disproportionately (a) retired or (b) relatively well-educated and professional, it seems reasonable to guess that the Tory vote would hold up well.
    Anyway, all this is speculation. I assume there are statistics about this sort of thing, but naturally I am too lazy to look them up.

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  5. JMB Avatar

    Taxation without the ability to vote is a fact of life for many reasons, even when you live in a country. Not being a citizen is one of them. This was our situation for more than forty years in Canada as we were unwilling to give up our Australian citizenship to become Canadians. Fortunately Australia eventually recognized the global reality, relenting to allow dual citizenship and we were first in line remedy the situation.
    Of course during that time we were not able to vote in Australian elections but then we were not being taxed either.

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  6. Moggsy Avatar

    Ian wants to be an MP doesn’t he? I figure that says all you need to know.

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  7. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    I commented at Dale’s place – and I agree with TomP. As far as expatriates go – they want our taxes / money but they don’t want our votes – no siree. They fawn over foreign billionaires and no so billionaires (esp. “donors”), letting them get away with stuff that would have your average Brit expat banged into the dirt like a tent peg.
    We are not valued for our input to the balance of payments. When I started living abroad – if you were paid from overseas and spent 180 days+ out of the country then you paid no income tax – much like the French do now…..
    As far as the British state is concerned I find it ironic / risible / an insult to the taxpayer that the entire bricks and mortar establishment of HMRC is held in the Bahamas and leased back to be err… tax efficient – how does that work then? – pulls white beard……

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Tom is a retired international lawyer. He was a partner in a City of London law firm and spent almost twenty years abroad serving clients from all over the world.

Returning to London on retirement in 2011, he was dismayed to discover how much liberty had been lost in the UK while he was away.

He’s a classical liberal (libertarian, if you must) who, like his illustrious namesake, considers that

“…government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.”

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