THE LAST DITCH

Link: Who really killed de Menezes? | David Aaronovitch – Times Online.

RatiocinatorDavid Aaronovitch was more noted for rhetoric than reasoning when he was a Leftist National Union of Students "hack" in my university days. He was a smug "lefter than thou," faux-prole, sent-down-from Oxbridge,  scruff then. He is a screw-loose political columnist now. Plus ca change.

Why stop at blaming the 7/7 and 24/7 London terrorists for Jean Charles de Menezes death? Certainly the Metropolitan Police would not have been running around our capital city like panic-stricken incompetents that day, had it not been for those terrorists. But the terrorists would not have been homicidal maniacs were it not for their warped ideology. And their warped ideology could not have been propagated were it not for the mullahs in their mosques. And the mosques would never have existed were it not for Islam. By his reasoning (not mine) an equally-correct answer to his stupid question is "The Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)"

One of the joys of worshipping at the altar of the Bitch Goddess of Socialism, is that everything is someone else's fault. Or often no-one else's (aka "Society's"). Aaronovitch has been an acolyte for so long that he has lost all ability to think in terms of personal responsibility (except on the part of political opponents).

As he has posed this interesting question however, let me answer it seriously. Who really killed Jean Charles de Menezes? Here is my (possibly incomplete) list:

1. Tony Blair who, as Prime Minister, authorised a policy to order the police to kill people in circumstances where the officers might have no lawful defence to a charge of murder;
2. The Home Secretary who instructed the Metropolitan Police Commissioner to implement that policy;
3. The Metropolitan Police Commissioner who accepted that instruction;
4. The officers who so failed to exercise their personal judgement on the scene that they killed an innocent man under police restraint although he was so clad that he could not concealed a bomb.

We can only speculate as to the state of  mind of the killers as they
pulled their triggers. The officer restraining Jean Charles has
given evidence that he feared for his own life. I think
it's fair to infer that their blood was up. Their commander (with the charming loyalty of the State apparatchik) has given evidence that she ordered them not to kill him. They did it anyway.

Please let's face the facts here. An innocent man was summarily executed in our name in the most brutal way – his head blown off with illegal dum dum bullets – by a squad of our public servants. This was done on the orders of our Government and without the sanction of Parliament. Our "servants"
then told us a barrage of lies about the dead man to distract attention from what they had done. These people, God help us, work for us. In a sense, we are all guilty until we rise up against them.

9 responses to “Who really killed de Menezes? | David Aaronovitch – Times Online”

  1. Diogenes Avatar
    Diogenes

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/11/08/do0801.xml
    Boris offers a 5th alternative. He blames the health and safety culture within the Met that prevented the unarmed surveillance officers from stopping their suspect before SO19’s arrival.
    If H&S is the reason Mr Menezes was not stopped before he got on the first bus or the second bus or the tube, then I think Boris makes a valuable point.
    The Met is clearly more afraid of the H&S Exec than the Hague, as evidenced by their choice of ammunition.

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  2. jameshigham Avatar

    One of the joys of worshipping at the altar of the Bitch Goddess of Socialism
    Classic.
    By the way, I’m in.

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  3. Nigel Sedgwick Avatar

    Well spoken, Tom Paine.
    Best regards

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  4. Rob Avatar

    It’s just insane, the whole thing. Why shoot even a legitimate terrorist in the head seven times?
    Also your order of responsibility is spot on.

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  5. MJW Avatar

    “One of the joys of worshipping at the altar of the Bitch Goddess of Socialism, is that everything is someone else’s fault” Sums socialism up rather neatly, someone eles can always take responsibility, someone else is always going to pay.
    The police f*cked up, that much is obvious, if anything the Islamist nutters will see it as a victory that they have forced such a state of panic onto the institutions of the British state.

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  6. NSJ Avatar
    NSJ

    Well stated Tom. Clearly the murderous pigs that pulled the trigger were petrified at the time, having lost control and panicked – I can understand why those incompetent cowards were and probably still are scared for their lives. Who are they? Does anyone know there identity?

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  7. TDK Avatar
    TDK

    “Why shoot even a legitimate terrorist in the head seven times?”
    Hyperthetically, a person who was prepared to kill themselves would still be able and willing to set off a bomb if merely injured. Live captures of suicide bombers in Israel depend upon identifying them whilst they are not in a position to harm anyone except themselves, and then getting them to remove the explosives from their body. Once the terrorist moves into proximity with potential victims, this is not possible anymore. If they know they have been identified, they are likely to blow themselves up early.
    That’s not to defend the actions here. Jean wasn’t wearing clothes that could conceal a bomb. Even if he was, he should have been isolated in the streets before he got underground.

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  8. Paul Bingham Avatar
    Paul Bingham

    The shooting of Menezes was a mistake, but why did he run! Why was he wearing a jacket in summer and not responding to Police demands!
    At the end of the day he was illegally in Britain and his papers had run out! this means you have no rights!!
    I am sure that in countries such as the United States and others where Police carry guns, and you started to run and subsequently being shot dead, your legal status will determine whether legal proceedings against the Police are justified.
    Honestly when is the UK going to wake up and relise that there over PC government policies are wrong and we are not a country that should allow illegal immigrants and bow down to everyone and everything! This is why our country is in a sorry state that it is and taxes keep getting higher!!
    I know my next move will be to leave the UK ASAP!

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  9. Tom Paine Avatar

    Paul, He didn’t run. He wasn’t wearing Winter clothes. All of the statements you quote have since been retracted. They were official disinformation at the time to try to prevent an outcry. It is almost unbelievable that anyone is still touting them as facts. At the time they shot him, his immigration status was not known. It could have been you, Paul. Wake up yourself!

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Returning to London on retirement in 2011, he was dismayed to discover how much liberty had been lost in the UK while he was away.

He’s a classical liberal (libertarian, if you must) who, like his illustrious namesake, considers that

“…government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.”

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